House Majority Leader Steve Scalise illuminates what happened behind
closed doors after Kevin McCarthy’s ousting as well as what to expect
next on impeachment; why he will vote against expelling George Santos;
and how Speaker Mike Johnson is trying to use immigration to tame
hardliners when it comes to the spending showdown with Joe Biden.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.
Steve Scalise is the House Majority Leader. 
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 
Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.

Steve Scalise reveals what’s really happened since McCarthy’s fall

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