Tessa Hulls is a writer and artist whose work has appeared in The Rumpus, The Washington Post, and The Capitol Hill Times. Her new book, a graphic memoir, is Feeding Ghosts.
“This project is the thing I have spent my entire life running from. I was incredibly determined to never touch this, either personally or professionally. … It was more an eventual act of resignation than a desire.”
Show notes:

@tessahulls

tessahulls.com

17:00 Persepolis (Marjane Satrapi • Pantheon • 2004)

19:00 richardscarry.com


32:00 The Margery Davis Boyden Wilderness Writing Residency


36:00 “Longform Podcast #144: Cheryl Strayed”



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Episode 571: Tessa Hulls

Sloane Crosley is the author of I Was Told There’d Be Cake and several other books. Her new memoir is Grief Is for People.
“You take a little sliver of yourself and you offer it up to be spun around in perpetuity in the public imagination. That is the sacrifice you make. And it makes everything just a little bit worse. So it's the opposite of catharsis, but it's worth it. It's worth it for what you get in return: a book.”
Show notes:

sloanecrosley.com

@askanyone

Longform Podcast #343: Sloane Crosley

01:00 Grief Is for People (MCD • 2024)

14:00 Heartburn (Nora Ephron • Vintage • 1996)

25:00 "Patchett: In Bad Relationships, 'There Comes A Day When You Gotta Go.'" (Fresh Air with Terry Gross • WHYY • Jan 2014)

25:00 Joan Didion on Fresh Air with Terry Gross


25:00 "Long COVID, Chronic Illness & Searching For Answers" (Fresh Air with Terry Gross • WHYY • Feb 2022)

32:00 "Obituary: Russell Perreault, V-P at Vintage Anchor, 52" (Rachel Deahl • Publishers Weekly • Jul 2019)

37:00 The Clasp (Picador • 2016)

49:00 How Did You Get This Number (Riverhead Books • 2011)

51:00 "Five O’Clock Somewhere" (Gary Indiana • Granta • Feb 2024)


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Episode 570: Sloane Crosley

Lauren Markham is the author of The Far Away Brothers: Two Young Migrants and the Making of an American Life and has written for The New York Times Magazine, The Guardian, and VQR. Her new book is A Map of Future Ruins: On Borders and Belonging.
“It took me a while to figure out that this is actually a book about storytelling, about journalistic storytelling, about the kind of myths we spin culturally and politically, about history, about current events, and the role of journalism within all of that, and my role as a journalist.”
Show notes:

@LaurenMarkham_

laurenmarkham.info

Markham on Longform

01:00 The Far Away Brothers (Crown • 2018)

03:00oaklandinternational.org


28:00 How the Word Is Passed (Clint Smith • Little, Brown and Company • 2021)

38:00 “How Greece Secretly Adopted the World’s Most Brazen—and Brutal—Way of Keeping Out Refugees” (Mother Jones • March 2022)

44:00 “For Me, With Love and Squalor” (Longreads • June 2018)


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Episode 569: Lauren Markham

Zoë Schiffer is the managing editor for Platformer. Her new book is Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk’s Twitter.
“Being the person where it's a fireable offense to leak to you … is kind of a badge of honor.”
Show notes:

zoeschiffer.com

Schiffer's Platformer archive


Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk’s Twitter (Portfolio • 2024)

03:00 Schiffer's Verge archive


08:00 "How Twitter’s child porn problem ruined its plans for an OnlyFans competitor" (Zoë Schiffer and Casey Newton • Verge • Aug 2022)

16:00 Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon (Michael Lewis • W. W. Norton • 2023)

36:00 Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future (Ashlee Vance • Ecco • 2017)

41:00 Ask a Swole Woman (Casey Johnston)


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Episode 568: Zoë Schiffer

Chris Ryan is the editorial director for The Ringer, where he co-hosts The Watch and The Rewatchables.
“There is a point where there’s just too much stuff. I can’t read a 5,000-word feature, 10 blog posts, and listen to three podcasts, and then do it all again the next day. So that is the line you walk in digital publishing, whether it’s for editorial stuff or for podcasting. You have to accept the fact that there is not going to be a single person out there who listens to it all, and who can read it all, and who can watch it all. But you can imbue everything you do with a certain quality—both like a personality, characteristic quality, but also like a quality of production—that hopefully anybody who does like this kind of thing will find some value in it.”
Show notes:

@ChrisRyan77

Ryan’s Ringer archive

3:00Andy Greenwald on Longform Podcast


3:00 Ryan’s Grantland archive


05:00 Ryan’s Spin archive


05:00 Ryan’s Fader archive


05:00 Ryan’s Village Voice archive


06:00 chaunceybillups.blogspot.com


27:00 The Ringer’s Philly Special (The Ringer • 2022)

45:00 Fairway Rollin’ (The Ringer • 2017)


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Episode 567: Chris Ryan

Patricia Evangelista is a trauma journalist whose coverage of the drug war in the Philippines has appeared in Rappler, Esquire, and elsewhere. Her recent book is Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in My Country.
“It is hard to describe the beat I do without saying very often it involves people who have died. And it seemed like an unfair way to frame it. It didn't quite seem right. … Sometimes there's no dead body, or sometimes there's 6,000, but the function is the same: that the people you speak to have gone through enormous painful trauma, and then there's a way to cover it that minimizes that trauma. So … I don't cover the dead. I cover trauma.”
Show notes:

Evangelista's Rappler archive


Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in My Country (Random House • 2023)

01:00 The Mastermind: A True Story of Murder, Empire, and a New Kind of Crime Lord (Evan Ratliff • Random House • 2020)

11:00 Evangelista's Philippine Daily Inquirer archive


21:00 "The Rapture of Rodrigo Duterte" (Patricia Evangelista and Nicole Curato • Rappler • May 2016)


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Episode 566: Patricia Evangelista

Susan Glasser, the former editor of Politico and Foreign Policy, writes the "Letter from Washington" column for the The New Yorker. Her most recent book, written with Peter Baker, is The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021.
“There’s a great benefit to leaving Washington and then coming back, or frankly leaving anywhere and then coming back. I think you have much wider open eyes. Washington, like a lot of company towns, takes on a logic of its own, and things that can seem crazy to the rest of the country, to the rest of the world, somehow end up making more sense than they should when you’re just doing that all day long, every day.”
Show notes:

@sbg1

Glasser on Longform

Glasser’s New Yorker archive

05:00 “The Year We Stopped Being Able to Pretend About Trump” (New Yorker • Dec 2023)

16:00 Glasser’s Politico archive


20:00 The Man Who Ran Washington (Glasser and Peter Baker • Anchor • 2021)

28:00 Peter Baker's New York Times archive


29:00 Kremlin Rising (Glasser and Peter Baker • Scribner • 2005)

37:00Theo Baker on the Longform Podcast



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Episode 565: Susan B. Glasser

Rob Copeland is a finance reporter for The New York Times. His recent book is The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and the Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend.
“If I stab you, I'm going to stab you in the chest, not the back. You're going to see it coming. ... But if you're going to tell me something's wrong, you have to keep talking. I'm not going to take your word for it. I have a reason for why I believe my reporting to be true, and I'm going to present it to you as best I can. But just because you say something's wrong doesn't make it so.”
Show notes:

@realrobcopeland

Copeland's New York Times archive

Copeland’s Wall Street Journal archive

02:00 The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and the Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend (St. Martin’s Press • 2023)

20:00 The Vow (HBO)

27:00 Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup (John Carreyou • Vintage • 2020)

29:00 "#557: Adam Grant" (Longform Podcast • Nov 2023)

29:00 Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World (Adam Grant • Penguin Books • 2017)

31:00 "Elon Musk Says He Lives in a $50,000 House. He Doesn’t Talk About the Austin Mansion." (Wall Street Journal • Dec 2021)

37:00 Principles: Life and Work (Ray Dalio • Avid Reader Press • 2017)

46:00 Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon (Michael Lewis • W. W. Norton & Company • 2023)


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Episode 564: Rob Copeland

Miles Johnson is an investigative reporter for the Financial Times. He is the author of Chasing Shadows: A True Story of Drugs, War and the Secret World of International Crime and the host of Hot Money: The New Narcos.
“I’m really fascinated always by the ways in which people just have to do really boring parts of running a crime organization … I love the banalities of this stuff. We have a fictionalized version of crime groups and it’s obviously glamorous, and they’re really smart, but there’s a lot of stuff that’s bumbling incompetence as well or just quite unglamorous.”
Show notes:

@MilesMJohnson

Johnson’s Financial Times archive

06:00 Johnson’s Guardian archive


07:00 Paul Murphy’s Financial Times archive


9:00 “How the Mafia Infiltrated Italy’s Hospitals and Laundered the Profits Globally” (Financial Times • July 2020)

14:00 “The Mystery of the Mogul, the Casino and the Heist that Rocked Mayfair” (Financial Times • May 2022)


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Episode 563: Miles Johnson

Hua Hsu is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His book Stay True won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for memoir.
“I've worked as a journalist … for quite a while. … But this [book] was the thing that was always in the back of my mind. Like, this was the thing that a lot of that was in service of. Just becoming better at describing a song or describing the look of someone's face—these were all things that I implicitly understood as skills I needed to acquire. ... It is sort of an origin story for why I got so obsessive about writing.”
Show notes:

@huahsu

byhuahsu.com

Hsu on Longform

Hsu on Longform Podcast

Hsu's New Yorker archive

03:00 A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016)

30:00 "Randall Park Breaks Out of Character" (New Yorker • Feb 2023)

33:00 Shortcomings (Adrian Tomine • Drawn & Quarterly • 2007)

39:00 "What Conversation Can Do For Us" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)

39:00 "J. Crew and the Paradoxes of Prep" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)

39:00 "The Many Afterlives of Vincent Chin" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)

39:00 "How Wayne Wang Faces Failure" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)

39:00 "Maxine Hong Kingston’s Genre-Defying Life and Work" (New Yorker • Jun 2020)


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Rerun: #533 Hua Hsu (May 2023)

Roxanna Asgarian is the author of We Were Once a Family: A Story of Love, Death, and Child Removal in America.
“Every once in a while, I'll have someone just freak out at me. And it keeps you honest, in a way, because they don't owe you anything. People don't owe you anything as a journalist. ... But everyone reacts to trauma differently and some people really do want to talk about it. And I think the families in this book really wanted to talk about it and it felt like no one was even paying attention to them.”
Show notes:

@strawburriez

Asgarian's Texas Tribune archive


We Were Once a Family: A Story of Love, Death, and Child Removal in America (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2023)

12:00 "Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash" (Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Mar 2018)

12:00 "Devonte Hart family crash: Sarah Hart sent alarming 3 a.m. text to friend ... then silence" (Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Apr 2018)

13:00 "Devonte Hart family crash: 'It's just devastating,' says aunt who fought for custody" (Roxanna Asgarian and Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Apr 2018)

34:00 "Devonte Hart's biological mom: They gave my kids 'to monsters'" (The Oregonian • Apr 2018)

45:00 "Before Children’s Grisly Deaths, A Family Fought for Them and Lost" (The Appeal • Jul 2018)

45:00 "A Mother Grapples with an Adoption that Led to Deaths" (The Appeal • Feb 2019)

45:00 "His siblings were killed by their adoptive mother. He was left in foster care to suffer a more common fate." (Washington Post • Dec 2019)

46:00 Broken Harts (Glamour and HowStuffWorks • 2018)


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Rerun: #528 Roxanna Asgarian (Mar 2023)

Daisy Alioto is a journalist and the CEO of Dirt Media.
“I don't think I was ever super precious about my writing, but if I was, I'm zero percent precious about it now. Every time I write for Dirt, it saves the company money. ... Nothing will make you sit down and write 800 words in 20 minutes than just needing to get it done. And that is a change that I've seen in myself. I would encourage everyone to be less precious about their writing.”
Show notes:

daisyalioto.com

00:00 Dirt


09:00 "Marie Colvin’s Private War" (Marie Brenner • Vanity Fair • Jul 2012)

09:00 A Private War (Acacia Filmed Entertainment, Savvy Media Holdings, Thunder Road Pictures • 2018)

05:00 Airmail


11:00 "Pretend it’s a living" (Dirt • Jan 2021)

15:00 Prune


16:00 Hung Up (Hunter Harris)

16:00 Maybe Baby (Hayley Nahman)

16:00 Today in Tabs (Rusty Foster)

16:00 Blackbird Spyplane (Jonah Weiner and Erin Wylie)

16:00 Singal-Minded (Jesse Singal)

17:00 "The Complete History & Strategy of LVMH" (Acquired • Feb 2023)

24:00 "Grizzly man" (Amelia K. • Dirt • Jun 2023)

24:00 "The Question of U" (Amelia K. • Dirt • Nov 2023)

25:00 "Diary of a chess tournament" (Akram Herrak • Dirt • Nov 2023)

25:00 "The sound of your voice" (Joann Plockova • Dirt • Nov 2023)

25:00 "For the love of chickens" (Tove Danovich • Dirt • Sep 2023)

26:00 "Bad waitress" (Becca Schuh • Dirt • Jun 2023)

28:00 "Užupis Utopia" (Playboy • Dec 2019)

35:00 Someone Who Isn’t Me (Geoff Rickly • Rose Books • 2023)

37:00 Fragantica


37:00 "Bottle Elizabeth Taylor" (Daisy Alioto • Dirt • Jun 2023)

39:00 The Ugly History of Beautiful Things: Essays on Desire and Consumption (Katy Kelleher • Simon & Schuster • 2023)

41:00 Scent + Song (Vivian Medithi)

44:00 Axios


44:00 The Information


44:00 Punchbowl News


44:00 The Ankler


44:00 Semafor



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Episode 562: Daisy Alioto

Ian Coss is a journalist, audio producer, and composer. He is the host of Forever is a Long Time and The Big Dig.
“One thing that I really carried with me in making the show is a belief that bureaucracy is interesting. And that once you get through the jargon and wonky sounding stuff … beyond that it’s all just human drama.”
Show notes:

@ian_coss

iancoss.com

32:00 Isabel Hibbard’s website


33:00 Forever is a Long Time (PRX • 2021)

37:00 Lacy Roberts’ website



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Episode 561: Ian Coss

Mosi Secret has written for ProPublica, The New York Times Magazine, and GQ. His new podcast is Radical.
“I think this story made me call on parts of myself that are not journalistic because I don’t really think that’s the way we’re going to get out of this at this point in my life. I think that it takes a more radical reimagining of who we are as human beings, the ways in which we’re connected, and what we owe to each other. And that’s not a reporting thing—that’s a ‘who are you’ kind of thing.”
Show notes:

mosisecret.com

Secret on Longform

Secret’s New York Times archive

10:00 “Stolen Youth: How Durham's Criminal Justice System Sent Erick Daniels to Prison Based on the Shape of His Eyebrows” (INDYWeek • May 2007)

18:00 “On the Brink in Brownsville” (New York Times Magazine • May 2014)

21:00 “‘The Way to Survive It Was to Make A’s’” (New York Times Magazine • September 2017)

23:00 Johnny Kauffman’s website


28:00 “Having a Drink With Mosi Secret, the New York Times’ First-Ever Sin and Vice Reporter” (Joe Coscarelli • New York Magazine • June 2014)

29:00 “Behind the Red Door” (New York Times • May 2014)

38:00 “The Real 'CSI': How America’s Patchwork System of Death Investigations Puts the Living at Risk” (A.C. Thompson • ProPublica • Feb 2011)


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Episode 560: Mosi Secret

Mary Roach is the author of seven nonfiction books, including Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law.
"In these realms of the taboo, there's a tremendous amount of material that is really interesting, but that people have stayed away from. ... I'm kind of a bottom feeder. It's down there on the bottom where people don't want to go. But if that's what it takes to find interesting, new material, I'm fine with it. I don't care. I'm not easily grossed out. I don't feel that there's any reason why we shouldn't look at this. And over time, I started to feel that ... the taboo was preventing people from having conversations that it would be healthy to have."
Show notes:

@mary_roach

maryroach.net

Roach on Longform

00:00 Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law (W.W. Norton • 2021)

01:00 Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers (W.W. Norton • 2003)

01:00 Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex (W.W. Norton • 2008)

01:00 Packing for Mars: The Curious Science of Life in the Void (W.W. Norton • 2010)

01:00 Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal (W.W. Norton • 2014)

02:00 "Cute Inc." (Wired • Dec 1999)

12:00 Roach's Salon archive


46:00 "Hot Seat" (Discover • Mar 1998)


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Rerun: #460 Mary Roach (Oct 2021)

Craig Mod is a writer and photographer who has two newsletters, Roden and Ridgeline. His new book is Things Become Other Things.
“There'll be days where … I’m doing a walk and I'll just be like, I don't know what is going to move me today. And then out of the blue, there'll be this small interaction that when you really pay attention to it, it contains kind of this universe of kindness and patience that you otherwise pass by or ignore. If you're in the general mode of looking at things and then being able to take that experience and try to transmute it into an essay for the evening and send it out, it just develops your eye. You just start being able to look more and more and more closely.”
Show notes:

craigmod.com


Things Become Other Things (Fine art edition • 2023 // Hardcover edition • Random House • 2025)


Roden (Newsletter)


Ridgeline (Newsletter)

1:00 Mod on Longform Podcast


6:30 Koya Bound: Eight Days on the Kumano Kodō (with Dan Rubin • PRE/POST • 2016)

16:00 Kiiiiiiiiiiiiii


16:00 Special Projects (Newsletter)

20:00 Kissa by Kissa (2020)

31:00 Pachinko Road (Pop Up Newsletter)

32:00 "I Walked 600 Miles Across Japan for Pizza Toast" (Eater • Dec 2019)

32:00 "The Glorious, Almost-Disconnected Boredom of My Walk in Japan" (Wired • May 2019)

45:00 Longform Podcast #533: Hua Hsu (May 2023)


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Episode 559: Craig Mod

Mona Chalabi is a writer and illustrator whose work has appeared in The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Guardian, where she is the data editor. Her New York Times Magazine piece “9 Ways to Imagine Jeff Bezos’ Wealth” won this year’s Pulitzer Prize for Illustrated Reporting.
“I kind of think of protest as just saying what you believe. And sometimes, it’s considered protest because it’s outside of the institutions of power. So you’re saying, Hey, Palestinians deserve human rights, and that’s considered a form of protest, right? I want the work to change things and I think I’m quite unapologetic about that, and most journalists are like No no no no no, we’re just reporting the world, we’re just reporting things as we see it. There’s no desire for change. I think that is so messed up. This idea that your work has no impact in the world is incorrect. You can’t wash yourself of the consequences of the work, you have to be considering the consequences while you’re doing it.”
Show notes:

monachalabi.com

Chalabi on Instagram

Chalabi's Guardian archive

1:00 "9 Ways to Imagine Jeff Bezos' Wealth" (New York Times Magazine • Apr 2022)

1:00 "How Does the Reality TV Show Cops Stack Up with Real-Life Crime Figures?" (The Guardian • May 2019)

6:00 "Striving For Justice: Lowkey in Conversation with Mona Chalabi" (GQ • Jun 2023)

8:30 "NY Times Writers Jazmine Hughes & Jamie Keiles Resign After Signing Letter Against Israeli War on Gaza" (Democracy Now! • Nov 2023)

8:30 Samira Nasr on Instagram


8:30 "Inside MSNBC’s Middle East Conflict" (Max Tani • Semafor • Oct 2023)

16:00 "Mentions of Israeli and Palestinian Deaths in The New York Times" (Instagram • Oct 2023)

18:00 "Circumcision Rates" (Instagram • Oct 2025)

21:00 New America Fellow


21:00 Emerson Collective


21:00 "The Gray-Green Divide" (Brooklyn Museum • Jun-Dec 2022)

21:00 "Am I Normal? with Mona Chalabi" (TED Audio Collective)

54:00 Muntadhar al-Zaidi


54:00 Longform Podcast #276: Azmat Khan


54:00 Yousur Al-Hlou's New York Times archive


54:00 Jazmine Hughes' New York Times archive


54:00 “Regarding the Pain of Others” (Marty Peretz • The New Republic • 1996)


54:00 Longform Podcast #553: Clare Malone



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Episode 558: Mona Chalabi

Adam Grant is an organizational psychologist, author, and host of the podcasts Work Life and Re: Thinking. His new book is Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things.
“If you only focus on your own interest, you tend to develop novel ideas, but not necessarily useful ideas. And so for me, the audience is a filter. … I might have 30 ideas for a book. Let me hone in on the four or five that also might be relevant to other people. The goal there is to make a contribution.”
Show notes:

adamgrant.net


Give and Take: Why Helping Others Drives Our Success (Penguin • 2014)


Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World (Penguin • 2017)


Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things (Viking • 2023)


Work Life with Adam Grant (TED Audio Collective)


Re: Thinking with Adam Grant (TED Audio Collective)

Grant's New York Times archive

17:00 "The Necessity of Others is The Mother of Invention: Intrinsic and Prosocial Motivations, Perspective Taking, and Creativity" (Adam Grant and James Berry • Academy of Management • Nov 2017)

22:00 "It's Not the Ideas You Create, It's Which Ones You Choose" (Leigh Buchanan • Inc. • Feb 2016)

40:00 Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know (Viking • 2021)


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Episode 557: Adam Grant

Jesse David Fox covers comedy for Vulture, where he hosts the podcast Good One. His new book is Comedy Book: How Comedy Conquered Culture—and the Magic That Makes It Work.
“There’s a complete lack of anyone who’s ever written about comedy seriously compared to any other art form. There’s just nothing. … So the challenge was, how do you start a conversation that no one has been participating in?”
Show notes:

@JesseDavidFox

Fox’s Vulture archive

3:00 Jason Zinoman’s New York Times archive


5:00 “What Is the Best Adam Sandler Movie?” (Vulture • April 2023)

6:00 Kathryn VanArendonk’s Vulture archive


8:00 “A Note About Splitsider” (Megh Wright• Vulture • Mar 2018)

11:00 “Jerry Seinfeld at Vulture Festival 2015” (Vulture • June 2015)

12:00 WTF with Marc Maron Podcast (Marc Maron • WTF • 2009)

14:00 “Jen Kirkman Turned Catcalling Into One of the Best Street Harassment Jokes Ever” (Vulture • April 2017)

23:00 “An Appreciation of the Button-Down Mind of Bob Newhart” (Ramsey Ess • Vulture • Mar 2018)

23:00 “Maria Bamford Wants to Tell You How Much Money She Makes” (Vulture • Oct 2017)

23:00 “How Funny Does Comedy Need to Be?” (Vulture • Sep 2018)

23:00 “Michelle Wolf on Correspondents Dinner, Social Media” (Vulture • Mar 2020)

23:00 “Disgust is Tom Segura’s Love Language” (Vulture • Sept 2022)

23:00 “The Story Behind Bert Kreischer’s ‘Machine’ Joke” (Vulture • May 2023)

23:00 “Katt Williams Explains Jacksonville Florida” (Katt Williams • Netflix • Jan 2020)

36:00 “How the Internet and a New Generation of Superfans Helped Create the Second Comedy Boom” (Vulture • Mar 2015)

37:00 Las Culturistas (Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang • iHeartRadio • 2016)


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Episode 556: Jesse David Fox

Evan Hughes is a journalist whose work has appeared in The New York Times Magazine, GQ, The Atlantic, The Atavist and many others. His book, just out in paperback, is Pain Hustlers: Crime and Punishment at an Opioid Startup.
“It should be called slow-form journalism…. It is heavily edited. It’s heavily fact checked. And chances are, you’re not going to be the first. Maybe you’re going to be first to reveal some piece of it. I have made peace with like, I’m not the scoop guy. I’m the person who comes in and I’m good at telling the story in a thorough and deep way.”
Show notes:

evanhughes.co


Pain Hustlers: Crime and Punishment at an Opioid Startup (Anchor • 2023)

03:00 "Longform Podcast #503: Evan Osnos" (Longform Podcast • Sep 2022)

03:00 "The Trials of White Boy Rick" (Atavist • Sep 2014)

04:00 "The Shocking True Tale of the Mad Genius Who Invented Sea-Monkeys" (The Awl • Jun 2011)

06:00 "Just Kids" (New York Magazine • Oct 2011)

07:00 Literary Brooklyn: The Writers of Brooklyn and the Story of American City Life (Holt • 2011)

12:00 "The Fugitive, His Dead Wife, and the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory That Explains Everything" (GQ • Jun 2016)

20:00 "Trial by Fire" (David Grann • New Yorker • Aug 2009)

25:00 Opioids, Inc. (Frontline • 2021)

25:00 The Crime of the Century (HBO • 2021)

47:00 Pain Hustlers (Netflix • 2023)

54:00 White Boy Rick (LBI Productions • 2018)

60:00 Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game (Michael Lewis • W.W. Norton • 2004)

60:00 Moneyball (Columbia Pictures • 2011)

61:00 "The Man Who Moves Markets" (Atlantic • Mar 2023)

63:00 "Bringing Down the Hachette" (Slate • May 2014)


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